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		<title>By: alper</title>
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		<dc:creator>alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everybody,

 I hate the exams. I tried to take toefl, unfortunately i could not get enough score.  Though I went to the states. I talked a lot of teacher from several universities, when i arrived there. I explained my background and purpose in English despite it&#039;s bad. Some of them invited me to talked. And one of them decided to try me and we started to work in his lab. at his university. After awhile, he said to me that he will accept me to his department as research assistant with full scholarship as long as i satisfy the school&#039;s language requirement that is min 80 if toefl ibt. unfortunately i could not succeed. During that time, i worked his lab for abbot 1 year, i used to attend meeting every week to discuss progresses of tasks, and i published one academic paper which has my name on it as well in a int&#039; conference. Finally, i could not resist that situation. i had to leave and leaved.

There is some problem about English exams for me. the rules are okay but they should not be everything. There should be different measurements to gain acceptance. Or cheating should be ignorable. After so many trouble every way could be seem as a way which will rescue us from this trouble. 

I know some peoples who has high score from the exams, but are not able to talk or understand things are spoken. It&#039;s very big handicap for me. Also some people just study repetitively questions of the exams, they memorize almost all questions.  When they get the exams, they see almost same questions or same template of questions for writing. 


it&#039;s my point of view.
i hate the exams...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everybody,</p>
<p> I hate the exams. I tried to take toefl, unfortunately i could not get enough score.  Though I went to the states. I talked a lot of teacher from several universities, when i arrived there. I explained my background and purpose in English despite it&#8217;s bad. Some of them invited me to talked. And one of them decided to try me and we started to work in his lab. at his university. After awhile, he said to me that he will accept me to his department as research assistant with full scholarship as long as i satisfy the school&#8217;s language requirement that is min 80 if toefl ibt. unfortunately i could not succeed. During that time, i worked his lab for abbot 1 year, i used to attend meeting every week to discuss progresses of tasks, and i published one academic paper which has my name on it as well in a int&#8217; conference. Finally, i could not resist that situation. i had to leave and leaved.</p>
<p>There is some problem about English exams for me. the rules are okay but they should not be everything. There should be different measurements to gain acceptance. Or cheating should be ignorable. After so many trouble every way could be seem as a way which will rescue us from this trouble. </p>
<p>I know some peoples who has high score from the exams, but are not able to talk or understand things are spoken. It&#8217;s very big handicap for me. Also some people just study repetitively questions of the exams, they memorize almost all questions.  When they get the exams, they see almost same questions or same template of questions for writing. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s my point of view.<br />
i hate the exams&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer, I&#039;m sure, is biometrics for the tests too. However, that raises the obvious questions of cost, responsibility with personal data and privacy.

Thinking more about it, I wonder what systems will be put in place by the UK Border Agency for their testing system that will make it so much better? It is so hard to verify identity reliably if someone is 5,000 miles away.

However, what the industry is now seeing are stricter operating guidelines from education providers for their agents. Face-to-face interviews, at an agent&#039;s premises, as well as Skype video interviews with the sponsor to check identity and English level, are the standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer, I&#8217;m sure, is biometrics for the tests too. However, that raises the obvious questions of cost, responsibility with personal data and privacy.</p>
<p>Thinking more about it, I wonder what systems will be put in place by the UK Border Agency for their testing system that will make it so much better? It is so hard to verify identity reliably if someone is 5,000 miles away.</p>
<p>However, what the industry is now seeing are stricter operating guidelines from education providers for their agents. Face-to-face interviews, at an agent&#8217;s premises, as well as Skype video interviews with the sponsor to check identity and English level, are the standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is NO doubt that cheating does take place.

I have students who purport to have IELTS 5.5. and a high TOELF score. 

They cannot understand, speak or write English. 

Forged certificates, bribed examiners or incomptent marking must be somewhere in the picture.

Happily the UKBA is at last addressing this issue - they will be introducing a SECURE TEST this summer and HOPEFULLY it will be at an IELTS 6 standard for ALL student admissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is NO doubt that cheating does take place.</p>
<p>I have students who purport to have IELTS 5.5. and a high TOELF score. </p>
<p>They cannot understand, speak or write English. </p>
<p>Forged certificates, bribed examiners or incomptent marking must be somewhere in the picture.</p>
<p>Happily the UKBA is at last addressing this issue &#8211; they will be introducing a SECURE TEST this summer and HOPEFULLY it will be at an IELTS 6 standard for ALL student admissions.</p>
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		<title>By: ielts tests - StartTags.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>ielts tests - StartTags.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is for people who want to study or work using the English language. This English language testStudents Cheating at the IELTS Test &#124; UK Student News and EventsThere have been many rumours of students cheating in their IELTS examinations. It has been reported [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is for people who want to study or work using the English language. This English language testStudents Cheating at the IELTS Test | UK Student News and EventsThere have been many rumours of students cheating in their IELTS examinations. It has been reported [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Mancinelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Mancinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy the information on this blog. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy the information on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Azher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some students cheating in IELTS test because some students are week in english like me. I got 5.5 band in secound time now iam trying to get 7 band thats min requirement so i dont know wt can i do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some students cheating in IELTS test because some students are week in english like me. I got 5.5 band in secound time now iam trying to get 7 band thats min requirement so i dont know wt can i do.</p>
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		<title>By: M Zaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Zaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should one have to take a calculator in IELTS exam whlist it doen&#039;t require any math!!!??
Anyway I have no idea how they cheat in IELTS exam whereas the examinee isn&#039;t allowed to even carry his moblie phone!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should one have to take a calculator in IELTS exam whlist it doen&#8217;t require any math!!!??<br />
Anyway I have no idea how they cheat in IELTS exam whereas the examinee isn&#8217;t allowed to even carry his moblie phone!!</p>
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		<title>By: sandeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not comm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not comm.</p>
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		<title>By: sarut</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i used to see sombody cheating like this. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i used to see sombody cheating like this. lol</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should not let students carry any electronic gear except a simple calculator in any exam. Problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should not let students carry any electronic gear except a simple calculator in any exam. Problem solved.</p>
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